Sunday, 26 April 2020

George Osborne has admitted that the Tories deliberately politicised the science


The scandal over Dominic Cummings attending the scientific advisory group meetings revolves around the concept of independent expert advice.

The problem of course is that embedding a very senior government adviser into the scientific advisory group absolutely trashes any claim that the advice they're giving to government is independent from government.

Having a senior member of the government in the meeting changes the entire dynamic, making it much less likely that the scientists will openly criticise or condemn government policy when they think it's wrong.

Everyone knows that people are less likely to speak up freely about institutional problems and mistakes if one of the bosses is in the room, especially when the boss has got a very recent track record of ideologically purging dozens of people who dared to stand up to him, like Cummings did in the Tory mass expulsion in September.

It's beyond obvious that if the scientific advice is to be considered independent, senior government figures should not be embedded in the scientific advisory group.

The official government line is that Cummings was only there to observe, ask questions, and act as an interface between the scientists and 10 Downing Street, which is bad enough for the aforementioned reasons, but former Tory Chancellor George Osborne has openly admitted the actual truth in a remarkable Tweet.

It's absolutely unmistakable that Osborne is admitting that the purpose of embedding Cummings in the scientific advisory group was to politicise the science.

In any kind of functional democracy the scientists would deliver their advice to the government, and then the government would use that advice as the basis for the political decisions they make.

The scientists propose certain measures, then the government combines this scientific advice with the advice they're receiving from their economic advisers to make the political decision whether the suggested measures are justifiable.

Deliberately infecting the scientific advisory group with the politics is clearly the wrong way to go, and one of the main reasons we're now in such a terrible mess, with the highest death rate in Europe, and one of the largest death tolls in the entire world.

The concept of allowing senior government spin doctors to interfere with the scientific or expert advice is an incredibly dangerous one, but George Osborne has come out and openly admitted that this was exactly what the government was doing by embedding Cummings in the scientific advisory group.

The most infuriating thing about this is the absolute non-reaction of people who should be horrified about it.

Recall how every criticism of the government's lamentable inaction in the crucial early stages of the Covid-19 crisis was met with the faux-outrage moralising of "how very dare you politicise this crisis!"

Anyone who has dared to point out how a decade of wanton Tory austerity destruction severely damaged our national ability to respond effectively to the crisis has witnessed the "don't politicise" howling reaching absolute fever pitch.

But then the architect of this austerity ruination comes out and admits that the Tory government deliberately politicised the science, and the "don't politicise" mob say nothing.

Funny isn't it, how their vehement objections to "politicisation" only come into play when people are using facts and evidence to criticise the Tory government, but when a very senior Tory-establishment figure openly admits that the Tory government deliberately politicised the crisis, they have absolutely nothing to say about it whatever!

Almost as if these "don't politicise" screechers are a bunch of absolute hypocrites driven purely by fealty to their Tory lords and masters isn't it?



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29 comments:

Anonymous said...

It's quicker to have a face to face meeting rather then report back in writing, it's a national emergency and you need to cut out bureaucracy. If anyone criticises the government to much they'd be fired? Right, they'd have to report it in writing to the government anyway in a physical report. Cummings would obviously read this. Is Thomas suggesting these scientists have a chat in a room and just not tell anyone?

Scientists need to report to government officials, it's completely standard practice to have them in the room. If anyone has better suggestions I'm all ears. I doubt it, so:

Thomas peddling Alex Jonestown B.S as per.

Fucking hell guys, can you please up your game a bit.

Anonymous said...

Responding to anonymous. You make three assertion: (a) speed was of utmost importance; (b) Cummings was a necessary attendee; (c) it is standard practice to have political appointees attend, regardless.

On the first point, speed is less important than quality. The first meeting took place in March. The difference in one day is not zero, but it was not so urgent as to require an action immediately out of the meeting. The quality of advice is therefore important. The question is whether Cummings attendance improves action speed of the PM. There is nothing to suggest it does. After all, the CMO and GCSA will both have attended. The PM could therefore be briefed immediately after regardless of Cummings (who could have attended another meeting on feasibility of implementing potential policies, say).

Turning to the second point. Cummings, a political advisor, is not the one best positioned to brief the PM on the advice that SAGE agrees - mentioned above. Cummings, a political advisor, is not best positioned to appreciate the justification behind alternative actions that were rejected - i.e. he's sitting through large portions of the meeting that he may misapprehend. Cummings' job means he advises the PM on what policies to implement based on political (ideological or electoral) concerns. There is nothing in SAGE's remit that makes his attendance necessary. The risk that Cummings misapprehends something and advices the PM erroneously is non-zero.

Finally, there is no evidence SAGE has never had any political members attending a meeting, ever. SAGE reports largely say "SAGE agrees that..." or "there is a possibility that", I can't say that SAGE reports never specifies individuals (they've not released the addendum for the worst case scenario), but what they have published so far does not name individuals except when the person has a task to complete (release data from X, say). Imagine Cummings says "the PM will never implement that policy" in response to advice. Do you believe that SAGE will now recommend it anyway? Or do you think they'll now come up with a second-best alternative?

If you imagine the first, they you're saying that Cummings attendance was unnecessary. If you are saying the second, you are saying that the advice is influenced by political concerns.

On all points your argument is lacking.

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Anonymous said...

@anonymous.

You have misrepresented my assertions:

(a) I stated bureaucracy and not speed. (b) I did not say Cummings was necessary, I stated it's standard practice to have a state representative in these meetings. You asserted this by stating the presence of the GCSA and CMO. (c) You're correct here and proved my point.

My point is and remains: Cummings is a political advisor. It makes sense that he would wish to attend these meetings first hand as discourse on a subject is better then reading about it and responding, which he would because he's a chief political advisor.

If Cummings is the villian as made out by Thomas and not myself (you'd have to find me some strong evidence that he's deliberately trying to sabotage these talks as well as the ideological reason for doing so) then he'd be able to disrupt them from a distance regardless.

Having now clarified my position, please respond. Oh, try harder.

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Unknown said...

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Unknown said...

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or his WhatApp contact +2348110493039