Sunday 26 April 2020

George Osborne has admitted that the Tories deliberately politicised the science


The scandal over Dominic Cummings attending the scientific advisory group meetings revolves around the concept of independent expert advice.

The problem of course is that embedding a very senior government adviser into the scientific advisory group absolutely trashes any claim that the advice they're giving to government is independent from government.

Having a senior member of the government in the meeting changes the entire dynamic, making it much less likely that the scientists will openly criticise or condemn government policy when they think it's wrong.

Everyone knows that people are less likely to speak up freely about institutional problems and mistakes if one of the bosses is in the room, especially when the boss has got a very recent track record of ideologically purging dozens of people who dared to stand up to him, like Cummings did in the Tory mass expulsion in September.

It's beyond obvious that if the scientific advice is to be considered independent, senior government figures should not be embedded in the scientific advisory group.

The official government line is that Cummings was only there to observe, ask questions, and act as an interface between the scientists and 10 Downing Street, which is bad enough for the aforementioned reasons, but former Tory Chancellor George Osborne has openly admitted the actual truth in a remarkable Tweet.

It's absolutely unmistakable that Osborne is admitting that the purpose of embedding Cummings in the scientific advisory group was to politicise the science.

In any kind of functional democracy the scientists would deliver their advice to the government, and then the government would use that advice as the basis for the political decisions they make.

The scientists propose certain measures, then the government combines this scientific advice with the advice they're receiving from their economic advisers to make the political decision whether the suggested measures are justifiable.

Deliberately infecting the scientific advisory group with the politics is clearly the wrong way to go, and one of the main reasons we're now in such a terrible mess, with the highest death rate in Europe, and one of the largest death tolls in the entire world.

The concept of allowing senior government spin doctors to interfere with the scientific or expert advice is an incredibly dangerous one, but George Osborne has come out and openly admitted that this was exactly what the government was doing by embedding Cummings in the scientific advisory group.

The most infuriating thing about this is the absolute non-reaction of people who should be horrified about it.

Recall how every criticism of the government's lamentable inaction in the crucial early stages of the Covid-19 crisis was met with the faux-outrage moralising of "how very dare you politicise this crisis!"

Anyone who has dared to point out how a decade of wanton Tory austerity destruction severely damaged our national ability to respond effectively to the crisis has witnessed the "don't politicise" howling reaching absolute fever pitch.

But then the architect of this austerity ruination comes out and admits that the Tory government deliberately politicised the science, and the "don't politicise" mob say nothing.

Funny isn't it, how their vehement objections to "politicisation" only come into play when people are using facts and evidence to criticise the Tory government, but when a very senior Tory-establishment figure openly admits that the Tory government deliberately politicised the crisis, they have absolutely nothing to say about it whatever!

Almost as if these "don't politicise" screechers are a bunch of absolute hypocrites driven purely by fealty to their Tory lords and masters isn't it?



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37 comments:

Anonymous said...

It's quicker to have a face to face meeting rather then report back in writing, it's a national emergency and you need to cut out bureaucracy. If anyone criticises the government to much they'd be fired? Right, they'd have to report it in writing to the government anyway in a physical report. Cummings would obviously read this. Is Thomas suggesting these scientists have a chat in a room and just not tell anyone?

Scientists need to report to government officials, it's completely standard practice to have them in the room. If anyone has better suggestions I'm all ears. I doubt it, so:

Thomas peddling Alex Jonestown B.S as per.

Fucking hell guys, can you please up your game a bit.

Anonymous said...

Responding to anonymous. You make three assertion: (a) speed was of utmost importance; (b) Cummings was a necessary attendee; (c) it is standard practice to have political appointees attend, regardless.

On the first point, speed is less important than quality. The first meeting took place in March. The difference in one day is not zero, but it was not so urgent as to require an action immediately out of the meeting. The quality of advice is therefore important. The question is whether Cummings attendance improves action speed of the PM. There is nothing to suggest it does. After all, the CMO and GCSA will both have attended. The PM could therefore be briefed immediately after regardless of Cummings (who could have attended another meeting on feasibility of implementing potential policies, say).

Turning to the second point. Cummings, a political advisor, is not the one best positioned to brief the PM on the advice that SAGE agrees - mentioned above. Cummings, a political advisor, is not best positioned to appreciate the justification behind alternative actions that were rejected - i.e. he's sitting through large portions of the meeting that he may misapprehend. Cummings' job means he advises the PM on what policies to implement based on political (ideological or electoral) concerns. There is nothing in SAGE's remit that makes his attendance necessary. The risk that Cummings misapprehends something and advices the PM erroneously is non-zero.

Finally, there is no evidence SAGE has never had any political members attending a meeting, ever. SAGE reports largely say "SAGE agrees that..." or "there is a possibility that", I can't say that SAGE reports never specifies individuals (they've not released the addendum for the worst case scenario), but what they have published so far does not name individuals except when the person has a task to complete (release data from X, say). Imagine Cummings says "the PM will never implement that policy" in response to advice. Do you believe that SAGE will now recommend it anyway? Or do you think they'll now come up with a second-best alternative?

If you imagine the first, they you're saying that Cummings attendance was unnecessary. If you are saying the second, you are saying that the advice is influenced by political concerns.

On all points your argument is lacking.

Anonymous said...

@anonymous.

You have misrepresented my assertions:

(a) I stated bureaucracy and not speed. (b) I did not say Cummings was necessary, I stated it's standard practice to have a state representative in these meetings. You asserted this by stating the presence of the GCSA and CMO. (c) You're correct here and proved my point.

My point is and remains: Cummings is a political advisor. It makes sense that he would wish to attend these meetings first hand as discourse on a subject is better then reading about it and responding, which he would because he's a chief political advisor.

If Cummings is the villian as made out by Thomas and not myself (you'd have to find me some strong evidence that he's deliberately trying to sabotage these talks as well as the ideological reason for doing so) then he'd be able to disrupt them from a distance regardless.

Having now clarified my position, please respond. Oh, try harder.

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Hello Am From The UK , I want to write a little testimony about the good work of doctor Oyagu who cured me from Hsv 1 and 2 for just 2 weeks with his herbal medicine, I never believe I can be normal again and have a good life like others I always regretted the day I got diagnose with the virus, I was lost of hope when my doctor told me there is no cure for it but I keep thinking and thinking about my future, if I can have kids of my own well I am so grateful for my helper who get me cured with his herbal medicine, I go online in search of anything that can help me because I can’t deal with it forever so I found this doc Oyagu email on a blog of someone who was cured by him I quickly contact him for help and explain all my pain to him, he told me not to worry about it there is cure for real, I never believe until he send me the herbal medicine when I order for it and I have it within 4 days that is how I took the medicine for 2 week and the following week I go for test just to confirm I was 100% cured from this sickness what a miracle in my life I am so happy right now, you can also get in contact with him if you have such sickness through email address oyaguherbalhome@gmail.com or text him on what's app, phone number +2348101755322 Dr Oyagu also has remedy to others disease like COLD SORES,HIV/AIDS,DIABETES.CANCER,HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND MANY MORE. I oblige everyone to contact this powerful herbalist Dr Oyagu and be free from suffering.

Cookie Walker said...


Hello Am From The UK , I want to write a little testimony about the good work of doctor Oyagu who cured me from Hsv 1 and 2 for just 2 weeks with his herbal medicine, I never believe I can be normal again and have a good life like others I always regretted the day I got diagnose with the virus, I was lost of hope when my doctor told me there is no cure for it but I keep thinking and thinking about my future, if I can have kids of my own well I am so grateful for my helper who get me cured with his herbal medicine, I go online in search of anything that can help me because I can’t deal with it forever so I found this doc Oyagu email on a blog of someone who was cured by him I quickly contact him for help and explain all my pain to him, he told me not to worry about it there is cure for real, I never believe until he send me the herbal medicine when I order for it and I have it within 4 days that is how I took the medicine for 2 week and the following week I go for test just to confirm I was 100% cured from this sickness what a miracle in my life I am so happy right now, you can also get in contact with him if you have such sickness through email address oyaguherbalhome@gmail.com or text him on what's app, phone number +2348101755322 Dr Oyagu also has remedy to others disease like COLD SORES,HIV/AIDS,DIABETES.CANCER,HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND MANY MORE. I oblige everyone to contact this powerful herbalist Dr Oyagu and be free from suffering.

Cookie Walker said...


Hello Am From The UK , I want to write a little testimony about the good work of doctor Oyagu who cured me from Hsv 1 and 2 for just 2 weeks with his herbal medicine, I never believe I can be normal again and have a good life like others I always regretted the day I got diagnose with the virus, I was lost of hope when my doctor told me there is no cure for it but I keep thinking and thinking about my future, if I can have kids of my own well I am so grateful for my helper who get me cured with his herbal medicine, I go online in search of anything that can help me because I can’t deal with it forever so I found this doc Oyagu email on a blog of someone who was cured by him I quickly contact him for help and explain all my pain to him, he told me not to worry about it there is cure for real, I never believe until he send me the herbal medicine when I order for it and I have it within 4 days that is how I took the medicine for 2 week and the following week I go for test just to confirm I was 100% cured from this sickness what a miracle in my life I am so happy right now, you can also get in contact with him if you have such sickness through email address oyaguherbalhome@gmail.com or text him on what's app, phone number +2348101755322 Dr Oyagu also has remedy to others disease like COLD SORES,HIV/AIDS,DIABETES.CANCER,HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND MANY MORE. I oblige everyone to contact this powerful herbalist Dr Oyagu and be free from suffering.

Unknown said...

HERPES CURE IS REAL:
Indeed Doctor Eke has a cure for Herpes Virus, I was once victim of the herpes virus with many epidemics on my body, I was cured of the virus thanks to the help of Doctor Eke herbal medicine. I have met most of his patient testimonials on blogs and social media pages, cured of various illnesses. I contacted him with his email address to which he replied and asked me a few questions and the preparation method for which I paid, he sent me herbal medicines and with his prescription I drank herbal medicine for 21 days and the epidemics on my body were healed after concluding herbal medicine, I went for the test and my result was negative with no trace of virus in my blood. You can also be cured, contact him on his official email; Dr ekeherbalhome@gmail.com or WhatsApp him on +2348126606424.

He said he had an herbal remedy for
Diabetes, cancer, PENIS ENLARGMENT, UTI, HPV

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heart disease and liver disease and many more.

louismaria said...

I Appreciate the great Dr iniboku for his healing herbal medicine he prepared for me, after being a sufferer of H.S.V 1&2 Disease for 2 years. it was very surprising how i got cured from Dr iniboku herbal medicine, that quickly cleanse my whole body and today after checking myself in the hospital i was found negatives, dear viewers my doctor personally told me that there was no cure for my Disease at first i thought the world has ended for me but as soon as i got reached to Dr iniboku herbal medicine, my story was not the same again, i only used Dr iniboku herbal medicine for just 3 weeks and i was totally cured, no one deserve to suffer for so long,health is wealth my dear viewers no amount of money can cure you except you get the right remedy and be cured completely, today a cure is found and confirm by many others like me, Dr iniboku also has other cure for HIV AIDS, DIABETES,HEPATITIS B,CANCER,HEART DISEASE,MIGRAINES,COLD SORES,I am going to keep spreading this good news to the whole world, his email address is (drinibokuspelltemple@gmail.com) or his WhatsApp him on this Tell.Number +2347059186346

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Dave Chan said...

God is Good!I promised God that I would share my testimony on this website. I had all the signs of STD Virus but I was not too sure as to which one. I did a lot of online research and scared myself straight for a whole week before going to see the nurse. She took one look at my genital part and first said that it could just be the anatomy of my body, then she said it looked like genital warts and that I MAY have herpes. I was devastated. She gave me some medicine for the herpes and some cream for the warts. I was also tested for every single STD including herpes. I went home and cried searching the web for all sorts of cures for herpes and awaiting my results. I saw a post whereby Dr. ibhafidon  Blessed cured Herpes and other diseases, I copied his contGod acts out and added him on whats app via +2348152228377. The next day my test result was ready and i confirmed Herpes positive. I told Dr ibhafidon Blessed about my health problems and he assured me of cure. He prepared his herbal medicine and sent it to me. I took it for 14 days (2 weeks). Before the completion of the 14 days in which I completed the dose, the Blisters and Warts that were on my body was cleared. I went back for check-up and I was told I'm free from the virus. Dr. ibhafidon Blessed cures all types of diseases and viruses with the help of his herbal medicine. You can reach Dr. ibhafidon Blessed via his email address on ( dribhafidon96@gmail. com ) or call him on +2348152228377 and whats app him on same number for more info mail me directly on.dribhafidon96@gmail. com .. 

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allen said...

[ ] I'm here to testify about the great work Dr Osebor did for me. I have been suffering from (HERPES) disease for the past 5 years and had constant pain, especially in my knees. During the first year,I had faith in God that i would be healed someday.This disease started circulating all over my body and i have been taking treatment from my doctor, few weeks ago I came across a testimony of one lady on the internet testifying about a Man called Dr Osebor on how he cured her from HIV Virus. And she also gave the email address of this man and advise anybody to contact Dr Osebor for help for any kind of sickness that he would be of help, so I emailed him on ( oseborwinbacktemple@gmail.com ) telling him about my (HERPES Virus) he told me not to worry that i was going to be cured!! Well i never believed it,, well after all the procedures and remedy given to me by this man few weeks later i started experiencing changes all over me as Dr Osebor assured me that i will be cured,after some time i went to my doctor to confirmed if i have be finally healed behold it was TRUE, So 
- [ ] friends my advise is if you have such sickness or any other at all you can contact Dr Osebor via email. { oseborwinbacktemple@gmail.com }or call or what sapp him on( +2348073245515 )
- [ ] DR osebor CAN AS WELL CURE THE FOLLOWING DISEASE:-
- [ ]  HIV/AIDS
- [ ]  HERPES
- [ ] CANCER
- [ ] ALS
- [ ] cancer 
- [ ] Diabetes
eye problem etc.

Florence said...


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